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Agenda and Minutes, 21 Mar 2006

Agenda: Tue 21 Mar 2006 (LSC Meeting)

  
  

Minutes

Attendance:

  John Whelan
  Patrick Brady
  Jolien Creighton
  Kipp Cannon
  Adam Mercer
  Duncan Brown
  Stuart Anderson
  Warren Anderson
  Siong Heng 

We started the meeting by putting together a list of items we wanted
to check the status of and make plans for:

  1.  Porting LSCSOFT to 64 bit architecture
  2.  Publication of GEO data
  3.  Calibration codes for LAL and frame generation
  4.  Documentation
  5.  Sys admin grid camp
  6.  Web servers

Other long term issues which were brought up for discussion included:

  7.  Preparing for sharing data with VIRGO
  8.  How to gain better access to GEO clusters
  9.  General problems


Porting LSCSOFT to 64 bit:
  - UWM will get an undergrad to build a clean LSCSOFT for 32 bit FC4
    including an lscsoft release of fftw and gsl. We will then
    work toward removing gsl and fftw from LSCSOFT.
  
  - UWM will get an undergrad to build a clean LSCSOFT for 64 bit FC4;
    initially there will be no support for condor compilation.

  - VDT pyGlobus is not working on 64 bit fedora core: maybe
    suggest to them a subset of VDT that we need. At the present
    time, the list is pretty small, but we may need to keep
    VOMS/GUMS to participate in OSG.

  - This is to be done by 9 June 2006. (Stuart and Patrick are to
    figure out who will do this.)


Publication of GEO data:
  - Siong and Kipp would like to have GEO data quality information
    available in the segment database so that they can run excess
    power on it.   Ben has nearly got this working modulo a small bug
    in the FrameL;  this was communicated to Benoit and will be fixed. 


Calibration codes:
  - Jolien explained that he now has codes to generate calibration
    frames from the ascii files that will be produced by the
    calibration team.  He showed the group how they work.
    
  - Jolien has also updated the calibration codes for LAL which allow
    a simple interface to the calibration data.  These codes work and
    are ready to be moved from LALApps to LAL CVS.  

  - Jolien has sent the frame files to Stuart to check if they are
    consistent and can be read by various tools.

  - Jolien and Brian will coordinate to generate the frame files,
    check them,  and carry out the test against the point estimate of
    the calibration provided by the calibration team.

  - We will transition to these new codes after the test is complete;
    probably about the end of March or early April.


Documentation:
  - we did not spend much time on this,  but agreed that we need to
    get started developing some how-to documents for the
    collaboration.


Sys admin grid camp:
  - Warren asked if there was still interest in sys admin grid camp.
    The answer was yes.  He asked how was the best way to find out
    what information would be most useful to the sys admins.  It was
    agreed that Warren would attend one of the Monday telecons to
    discuss this and get some ideas.
  - In addition,  Warren reminded us that the GRIDs folks are willing
    to give us a one hour presentation about cool grid tools during a
    DASWG telecon to see if there is anything else we might be
    interested in trying out. 
  - Warren will put together a plan for an August camp in coordination
    with the GRIDs folks,  Stuart and the sys admins.


Web servers:
  - There was a lot of moving of web servers over the last few months
    as we scrambled to provide these services the LSC members doing
    data analysis. 

GEO:
  clusters and how to get at them



Web servers
  will use names  www.ldg-uwm.ligo.org
                  ldg1-uwm.ligo.org

                  June LSC target date

                  Need to get documentation on the web site for sys
                  admins

Problems:

  * RLS is becoming more or more flaky
  * Is data replicating automatically if nodes fail
  * Documentation 


Igor is taking over segment database


LDR services are about a day a week at the sites.
  - there are a few corner cases that have not quite been figured out.
  - patrick to make 

Onasys database and web service:
  - 



Wish List:
  - condor has fallen over a few times
  - Alex 500 dags
  - Patrick's student crashed it.
  - the biggest bug in condor is Duncan
  - there is no fair sharing
  - need somebody to go through the bologna batch system
  - how to put matlab in a box?


Matlab:
  - cannot do 64 bit matlab
  - vanilla condor in 64 bit

  
How to get jobs moving around the grid:
  - try condor-c:  yes.  But who will do it?
  - Do this in early June.
  


Data Publication:
  will come back to it in about 6 months to see 


DMT offline rpms:
  need to get this and root working together.   Disable globus and
  something else.


Are we missing any big pieces?

  *  Ben mentioned the publication of the segment information for GEO.  

  *  Data discovery for products 



      




Calibration Frame Stuff:

  Frame reading and writing code is in place.  The ascii reading code
  is coming along.  Once this is done,  he will update the program.  

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