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Review Committee Meeting Monday 24 July 2006 09:00 PST / 12:00 EST

Minutes: Monday 24 July 2006 09:00 PST / 12:00 EST

Agenda and Contact Info


  1. Continue discussion of draft of S4 untriggered burst search [ PDF ]
  2. Continue discussion of the S2-S3-S4 GRB-GWB search [ HTML ] including an update on modeling the redshift distribution of GRBs [ PDF ]
  3. Continue discussion of the SGR search [ HTML ] including an update on the sensitivity as a function of various waveforms [ HTML ]

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  1. S4 Untriggered
    • JC's sensitivity estimate: Z_G=6.7 implies w=4.88 for 4km IFOs which corresponds (?) to an expected sensitivity of hrss(det) ~ 3.5 sqrt[S_h(f0)] or hrss ~ 8.5 sqrt[S_h(f0)] including a factor of sqrt(5) from sky-averaging and a factor of 1.1 from calibration uncertainty. But this is not what is seen: something around a factor of 2 greater for hrss50%. Need to understand discrepancy. JC will post a write-up of the calculation. Sergey will see if he can reproduce it.
    • Code reviews: want to have a clear statement of what the scope of the review is, i.e., exactly which portions of the pipeline have been checked. Worry is that what is reviewed in WB review might not mesh with where the CorrPower review picks up... there might be a script that translates the output from WaveBurst to the input of CorrPower that is not reviewed an that may have mistakes. If we have a clear statement then we can identify holes in the current review.
  2. GRB: Soumya's document [ PDF ]
    • Investigation of redshift distribution of GRBs based on SFR history. Peak in GRB redshift of about 2. This corresponds to a luminosity distance distribution in which effectively all the sources are farther than 2 Gpc. But we've seen GRBs nearer than this! Q: Are the nearer ones all short GRBs (model based on SFR is for long-GRBs)? Or is there something wrong?
    • Is cutoff at 2 Gpc important? It seems to imply that the chances of detecting anything associated with GRBs is negligible. We would not expect the population study to yield any meaningful limits.... Can see if the limits are robust against changes in the cutoff.
    • Alternative: model the redshift distribution with a beta distribution that (i) behaves like z^3 for small z and (ii) has a peak at z=2. This will fully specify the distribution. But would it look like the theoretical distribution? Soumya: can do this with luminosity distance too -- instead of having a cutoff can make it so the nearby GRBs have the appropriate power law.
    • Goal would be to constrain the factor that converts luminosity distance into snr given the population distribution parameters.
    • (Isabel: expects to complete her investigation in the next few days.)
  3. SGR: Luca's investigation [ HTML ]
    • Injected a variety of different signals types. SGs with varying Qs. AM and phase-modulated signals with a variety of modulation frequencies.
    • Results: sensitivity relatively independent of Q for Q larger than 10000 ; below this the signal tends to get vetoed! Is this a worry? Q: For these small values of Q, is FWHM of signal larger than the EM observations bound it to be (at least for the EM QPO)? If we're worried about this, perhaps modification to the algorithm could be done, e.g., tuning the veto level or introducing a gap between the source band and the reference bands.
    • AM/Phase Modulations: sensitivity degraded as sidebands enter the neighbouring "reference" bands; slightly improves again as the sidebands move out of the reference bands (for large modulation frequencies). These extreme examples seem to violate expected FWHM of signal QPO.
    • Question about modulation depth. Also: what about a slow frequency modulation in which the signal starts at, say, 96 Hz and then drifts down to, say, 90 Hz over the 50 s signal duration?
    • Ratio test doesn't seem to work. Not surprising in hindsight: in order to get a reliable power estimate in a 1 Hz band, would want to integrate for at least 10 seconds -- more really. So ratio test needs either a longer integration time or a wider band in order to measure the reference spectrum.
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